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  What will you do when the Great Tribulation Begins?

  by Malkiel in

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  i've always wanted to ask this question to those that have decided to leave the organization.. what will you do when the great tribulation begins?.

  right now folks, a lot is happening in the political world.. gordon brown (prime miniter of england) last week gave a speech to the un stating that it is time for the un to step in and solve the world's problems, (specifically mentioning the economy and hunger crisis worldwide.).

  barrack obama is shaping up to be the next president, a fellow who sure knows how to persuade and lead great crowds.

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  Malkiel,

  The book I have in mind is How to Read the Bible: History, Prophecy, Literature - Why Modern Readers Need to Know the Difference, and What It Means for Faith Today by Steven L. McKenzie.

  I feel that reading that book (as well as the bible and full blown commentaries on Daniel and Revelation) resulted in my eyes being opened. It does not attack faith in the bible and Christianity, but promotes a much clearer understanding of the relevant literature. Chapter four is particularly pertinent, but it's all well worth reading. As I said before, you won't find anything related specifically to Jehovah's Witnesses in there. This is about constructive, positive education.

  If you have a read, I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
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  What will you do when the Great Tribulation Begins?

  by Malkiel in

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  i've always wanted to ask this question to those that have decided to leave the organization.. what will you do when the great tribulation begins?.

  right now folks, a lot is happening in the political world.. gordon brown (prime miniter of england) last week gave a speech to the un stating that it is time for the un to step in and solve the world's problems, (specifically mentioning the economy and hunger crisis worldwide.).

  barrack obama is shaping up to be the next president, a fellow who sure knows how to persuade and lead great crowds.

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  Hi Malkiel,
  
  From what I read of the responses to your question, I gather the ones who you read as choosing death don't actually believe the great tribulation is coming and only answered as if it were. (There's a word for this sort of comment, and I can't remember what it is...)
  
  I notice that you seem to use the phrase "the fact is" quite a lot with regard to the situation today. Facts should be demonstrable, and should stand up to scrutiny. Now, would you allow me to recommend you one book to read? It is not by any ex-Witness or anti-Witness, and does not even mention the Watchtower Society or Jehovah's Witnesses; it's written by a scholar of Hebrew and is entirely concerned with correctly reading the bible.
  
  I await your reply.
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  What would you do if

  by IP_SEC in

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  you were trapped in an elevator 41 hours?.

  here's what one guy did.. .

  http://youtube.com/watch?v=p_bmhni_ty8.

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  That's a long time to go without a drink. (I was thinking of fluids, not necessarily alcohol.)
  
  I suppose I'd try and sleep as much as possible to avoid the worry/boredom.
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  How many will bother going to the bookstudy between now and January?

  by DT in

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  if i were still in, i would find it hard to be excited about going to the book study now that i know it is doomed.

  the revelation book has already been hashed to death.

  the silly five finger death grip illustration doesn't apply any more.

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  I wonder if many will allow this to affect their view of the meetings and what they're told about them. For so long, every one of those meetings has been put forward as something very important, not to be missed, an important part of Jehovah's feast. And then you're suddenly told that one of them is being amalgamated into another one.
  
  Will some wonder if they can be bothered with the Thursday meeting, too?
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  Why does BETHEL NOT ALLOW district and circuit overseers to get-together.

  by yesidid in

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  some time ago a district overseer i know decided to have a social gathering of the do and co's.

  after a district convention.

  when bethel found about it, the do was told to, and did cancel it immediately.. i have often wondered why they don't want the do's and co's to socialise.. what do you think?.

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  Yeah, what daniel-p said. Having those relatively high up in responsibility getting together and discussing the grittier things of JW'ism could well lead to autonomy.
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  has anyone else read cectic.com (a webcomic)?

  by cyd0099 in

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  http://cectic.com/comics/069.png

  i find it amusing

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  I hadn't - thanks for the link! :D
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  My intruction on JWD. Hi!

  by easyreader1970 in

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  i posted this in my profile but since i've never formally introduced myself, i thought i would print it here as well as my official "hello" message.

  i am currently an active jw.

  i don't want to be but the situation i am in doesn't allow me to do anything differently.

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  Welcome easyrider. Can't imagine what that situation feels like.
  
  As you're still officially in and in some sort of standing, you're in a position where you can carefully do something about your wife and kids if you so choose. I was going to try to find the story that Eliveleth posted - well worth a read.
  
  All the best, and see you round the forum soon.
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  Florida Considers Christian License Plate

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  florida considers christian license plateby jessica gresko,apposted: 2008-04-24 08:22:10 miami (april 24) - florida drivers can order more than 100 specialty license plates celebrating everything from manatees to the miami heat, but one now under consideration would be the first in the nation to explicitly promote a specific religion.. .

  james moore, faith in teaching / ap.

  the florida legislature is considering a specialty plate with a design that includes a christian cross, a stained-glass window and the words "i believe.".

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  Ooo, a sunset. What an original idea. Classy.
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  What will you do when the Great Tribulation Begins?

  by Malkiel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've always wanted to ask this question to those that have decided to leave the organization.. what will you do when the great tribulation begins?.

  right now folks, a lot is happening in the political world.. gordon brown (prime miniter of england) last week gave a speech to the un stating that it is time for the un to step in and solve the world's problems, (specifically mentioning the economy and hunger crisis worldwide.).

  barrack obama is shaping up to be the next president, a fellow who sure knows how to persuade and lead great crowds.

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  What will you do when the Great Tribulation Begins?

  I will think of that poster on JWD called Malkiel, and feel sorrow that they are about to be destroyed as they did not have enough love of God and Jesus to follow through on Matthew 24:26,27 and used a gross misapplication of the illustration that Jesus gave in this chapter (the relvant verse which is picked out ad infinitum being 45) as an excuse to put what an organsiation run by men says above the word of God.

  Malkiel - if you sincerely wish to follow the bible, you have some research to do. Perhaps biblical translation may be a good place to start. After all, if the Society's translation is accurate it will stand up to honest, thorough analysis.
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  book recommendations?

  by Switch in

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  missinglink and i read steven hassan's combatting cult mind control.

  it appears that the moonies and other cults use similar lingo to the jw's like truth and worldly people, etc.

  and shunning, recruiting new ones and many other concepts are comparable.

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  Maybe there's something you could use at http://www.freedomofmind.com/.